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and the former brother-in-law that you just heard brian todd refer to talked a little bit about those bonds and what it might mean for dzhokhar and his older brother tamerlan. here he is. >> i believe he was just maybe obeying him because he is older, he's the older brother. and, yes, i know that they all love tamerlan. they all admired him. his younger sisters and the brothers and dzhokhar really thought tamerlan as the role model. and i believe that he didn't question much. >> now, you know, there have been reports that tamerlan may have physically abused one of his sisters. obviously there was an assault case by his wife against him. the role of senior male with the family in the united states be enough to convince his younger brother to go along with him? >> i doubt that, that that would be enough in and of itself. but i guess i'd like to comment on a very famous social psychology experiment by stanley millgram who did a phoney shock machine. he took people and within an hour individuals were electrocuting others just because somebody ordered them to. >> you know, it's funny, you
and the former brother-in-law that you just heard brian todd refer to talked a little bit about those bonds and what it might mean for dzhokhar and his older brother tamerlan. here he is. >> i believe he was just maybe obeying him because he is older, he's the older brother. and, yes, i know that they all love tamerlan. they all admired him. his younger sisters and the brothers and dzhokhar really thought tamerlan as the role model. and i believe that he didn't question much. >>...
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supported by law enforcement officers. it was a common sense plan, but senator mcconnell ignored the will of the people. >> and democrats who voted against background checks or better background checks for gun buyers are hardly off the hook. the progressive change campaign committee ran this ad in seven newspapers across montana on sunday. this sunday. featuring local gun owners angry about senator max baucus' vote. joining me right now, david axelrod, former obama senior adviser. msnb political analyst and republican strategist john feehery. somehow i have a different attitude towards the republicans and the democrats who voted on this thing. i don't know why it is because i'm not always partisan. but i really do have a problem with mitch mcconnell. i would like to see him get stung hard on this one. why do i think like that? because he tends to be an s.o.b. generally? does anybody like that guy? >> you don't like mr. mcconnell but i like him. >> you like mr. mcconnell. >> i don't think this is going to hurt him. >> you'r
supported by law enforcement officers. it was a common sense plan, but senator mcconnell ignored the will of the people. >> and democrats who voted against background checks or better background checks for gun buyers are hardly off the hook. the progressive change campaign committee ran this ad in seven newspapers across montana on sunday. this sunday. featuring local gun owners angry about senator max baucus' vote. joining me right now, david axelrod, former obama senior adviser. msnb...
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it's the former brother-in-law of the suspects, and i spoke with him. he spoke with me from kazakhstan. what can you tell us about mischa, and supposedly his influence over the older brother? >> well, first of all, allow me to express my condolences to all of those who lost their loved ones, when this happened, and yes, i met mischa. and, well, it seemed to me that he, mischa, had influence on tamerlan. >> do you believe he inspired the older brother to become a radical muslim? >> i'm not sure if he inspired, or taught him to be radical islamist, but he surely did have influence and did teach him things to have tamerlan go away from the people, and go more into the religion. and maybe, maybe that's possible that he suggested to him some radical ideas. but i wouldn't say that -- i mean, i didn't witness him making him radical. or, you know, i didn't witness him say anything. i just know what tamerlan told me, that he quit boxing, and music, because mischa was, you know, teaching him that it's not good in islam to do those things. >> what was misha's last
it's the former brother-in-law of the suspects, and i spoke with him. he spoke with me from kazakhstan. what can you tell us about mischa, and supposedly his influence over the older brother? >> well, first of all, allow me to express my condolences to all of those who lost their loved ones, when this happened, and yes, i met mischa. and, well, it seemed to me that he, mischa, had influence on tamerlan. >> do you believe he inspired the older brother to become a radical muslim?...
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scooter gave up his law practice, his white shoe law firm and everything to serve cheney and everyone in the country in his way. he was talking to everybody for cheney. at the time, cheney stepped back and acted like he had nothing to do with it. which is it, is he a soldier or an outlaw? >> don't forget, he lied for dick cheney. >> i know he did. how can he say it both ways, he wasn't doing our job for us and yet he died as a soldier on the field? your thoughts, wayne, because you brought it up. i don't know much about this relationship. why is he keeping a secret, what cheney told him to do? >> part of the key here is to look at it from cheney's point of view and bush's point of view. cheney believes it and george bush, what he saw at the end of his eighth year tenure who is elbowing him saying come on, the law be damned, let's give this guy a pardon, it was exactly the kind of thing that bush himself found repulsive in the case of other presidents, including bill clinton, he gave some pardons. >> he thought this is something i don't like. it was one guy who was the decider and it w
scooter gave up his law practice, his white shoe law firm and everything to serve cheney and everyone in the country in his way. he was talking to everybody for cheney. at the time, cheney stepped back and acted like he had nothing to do with it. which is it, is he a soldier or an outlaw? >> don't forget, he lied for dick cheney. >> i know he did. how can he say it both ways, he wasn't doing our job for us and yet he died as a soldier on the field? your thoughts, wayne, because you...
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about the two suspects, still no cause of death determined for the older suspect tamerlan tsarnaev but law enforcement and national security forces are now telling cnn he was on two different terror data bases. those sources say he was not on a no fly list but there was a flag in one of the data bases to ping authorities if he tried to leave the country. apparently the system did ping when he went to russia last year but the flag in the system expired while tsarnaev was over there and then there was no ping on his return trip. we're also learning more about what the pair may have been planning next police in new york city saying the brothers may have intended to flee there. >> they may have intended to come to new york but not to continue what they were doing. information we received said something about a parting, having a parting. >> police commissioner ray kelley of new york city says that information came from the interviews with the surviving suspect. dzhokhar tsarnaev remains hospitalized in fair condition. sources say he has been communicating with investigators and is in the same h
about the two suspects, still no cause of death determined for the older suspect tamerlan tsarnaev but law enforcement and national security forces are now telling cnn he was on two different terror data bases. those sources say he was not on a no fly list but there was a flag in one of the data bases to ping authorities if he tried to leave the country. apparently the system did ping when he went to russia last year but the flag in the system expired while tsarnaev was over there and then...
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being unhappy and being rabid in the united states is to the against a federal law. and furthermore i can't watch that person indefinitely. the secretary thing i would say is if you continue to pursue one of these in a thousand are false positives, those 999 are going to be pretty pissed off and i don't have the resources to do that you would be surprised how labor intensive intelligence operations are. really they cost a lot of money and they take a lot of people. >> rose: you talked about madrid and london where there were two different kinds of ploxs. >> yeah. >> rose: but i say there was a spider web there. meaning that the person who did that had a network that he could rely on is that correct? >> that's correct. we've got two spiders in this case. now one in boston and the question you have as an intelligence professional is, has nothing to do with what investigation is happening in boston over the past few days. it has to do with common characteristics of terror plots or cells. money, travel who recruited them, who did they recruit where. did the ideology come
being unhappy and being rabid in the united states is to the against a federal law. and furthermore i can't watch that person indefinitely. the secretary thing i would say is if you continue to pursue one of these in a thousand are false positives, those 999 are going to be pretty pissed off and i don't have the resources to do that you would be surprised how labor intensive intelligence operations are. really they cost a lot of money and they take a lot of people. >> rose: you talked...
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one, by a foreign entity, and you have to respect the laws of this land. privacy laws and privileges of certain status individual. he was, in fact, someone who had status. he was documented. he was not a citizen, however. but in our parameters, there are certain guidelines we have to follow. i don't disagree with that. what i would like to see, and this is again in the general domain, is that we make sure that all agencies communicate with each other and if there was information and there was dead silence, a period of lull, a period of nonaction, then i would hope the file could remain open and someone would say, he we tried to get information from russia, at least what is in the public domain now. we try to get information from russia. we haven't heard from them, we will continue to pursue them in spite of any lull in our diplomatic relations. we will continue to work with their law enforcement or intelligence authorities, just to follow up. that is what i call connecting the dots and i want to make it very clear. this does not take away from the very fin
one, by a foreign entity, and you have to respect the laws of this land. privacy laws and privileges of certain status individual. he was, in fact, someone who had status. he was documented. he was not a citizen, however. but in our parameters, there are certain guidelines we have to follow. i don't disagree with that. what i would like to see, and this is again in the general domain, is that we make sure that all agencies communicate with each other and if there was information and there was...
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that's the single element i think that runs through all of american law enforcement. when events like this occur, the nation is always reminded of your bravery, but unfortunately having attended so many funerals and memorial services for law enforcement officers in my career, i not only think of your bravery, the first thoughts i have are your families. because every day when you get up and pin on that shield and walk out that door, your husband, your wife, your mother, your father, your brother, your sister, they know -- they know it's nagging that anything could happen. yet they stand with you. they support you. and they have the courage to encourage you to do what you do. so i want to thank not only sean's family for their willingness to support their brother, their son taking on this work, but all of your husbands and wives, fathers and mothers and children, we owe you so much more than just honoring you on days of grief and celebrati celebration. there's a line from an english poet he said "they also serve who only stand and wait." your families, they stand and w
that's the single element i think that runs through all of american law enforcement. when events like this occur, the nation is always reminded of your bravery, but unfortunately having attended so many funerals and memorial services for law enforcement officers in my career, i not only think of your bravery, the first thoughts i have are your families. because every day when you get up and pin on that shield and walk out that door, your husband, your wife, your mother, your father, your...
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that's the single element i think that runs through all of american law enforcement. when events like this occur, the nation is always reminded you have your bravery, but unfortunately having attended so many funerals and memorial services for law enforcement officers in my career, i not only think of your bravery, but the first thoughts i have is of your families. because every day when you get up and pin on that shield and walk out that door, your husband, your wife, your mother, your father, your brother, your sister, they know -- they know it's naggy that anything could happen. yesterday they assistant with you, they support you, and they have the courage to encourage you. to do what you do. so i want to thank not only sean's family for their willingness to support their brother, their son, taking on this work, but all of your husbands and wives, fathers and mothers, and children, we owe you so much more than just honoring you on days of grief and celebration. there's a line from an english poet keats. he said -- they also serve who only stand and wait. your famil
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we're hearing for the first time from the suspect's former brother-in-law who is married to one of the sisters. he thinks the man identified misha may have been influenced the older brother and who then influenced the younger one. >> i'm not sure if he inspired or taught him to be radical islamist, but he surely did have influence and did teach him things that would make tamerlan go away from the people and go more into the religion and maybe that's possible that he suggested to him some radical ideas. >> again, the full identity of this misha, what impact he may have had on the older brothers not clear. >>> the u.s. delegation has arrived in dagestan to try to interview the parents of the suspected bombers. >>> when the barriers came down on boylston street and the public was aallowed back in. customers are returning. the tragedy is still fresh in everyone's mind. brooke baldwin joins us from boylston street. what's the mood there? >> i think normal still isn't quite the right word. we're just across the street from where you're standing in copley square. this is the heart of the back
we're hearing for the first time from the suspect's former brother-in-law who is married to one of the sisters. he thinks the man identified misha may have been influenced the older brother and who then influenced the younger one. >> i'm not sure if he inspired or taught him to be radical islamist, but he surely did have influence and did teach him things that would make tamerlan go away from the people and go more into the religion and maybe that's possible that he suggested to him some...
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at that point certainly we should be talking about notifying local law enforcement and other agencies. the other agencies were aware of this. i think, you know, in a case like this, it's always easy to look back and say well, they did this wrong or did that wrong. so far i got to be honest with you, i haven't seen any evidence of that. there was some question about whether we got the proper notification to the airport when tamerlan came back into the united states. the question is would that have mattered because there still wasn't anything in the file to indicate that he was going to be a problem. now, having said all that, clearly one of my principles of leadership is you always do an after action assessment and you say what worked and what didn't work? there may be some systems things that we need to work out here. i don't know. it's a legitimate question to discuss as to whether every one of those 20,000 tips and even those that come up negative are passed to local law enforcement. at some point this is america. >> independent senator angus king of maine. thank you for your time.
at that point certainly we should be talking about notifying local law enforcement and other agencies. the other agencies were aware of this. i think, you know, in a case like this, it's always easy to look back and say well, they did this wrong or did that wrong. so far i got to be honest with you, i haven't seen any evidence of that. there was some question about whether we got the proper notification to the airport when tamerlan came back into the united states. the question is would that...
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he was involved in much more than law enforcement. he was involved with the ambulance service on campus. he helped out organizations that were fighting cancer. someone who everyone has something good to say about today. getting the spotlight shined on his life and all the kacauses h supported. >> he will be remembered by a medal in his honor. >> reporter: mit saying they have set up a fund. this fund will support the collier medal. this is something that will be handed out to individuals who sort of have his kind of values and support the kind of causes he has supported. this is something they want to establish so it will more than just a tragedy that is the center of his life. >> dan lothian, over at white house for us. we'll have coverage of the memorial service. >>> just ahead here in the "cnn newsroom," we're going to introduce you to a man who survived the boston terror attacks, but only days later became a witness to a massive explosion in texas. before copd... i took my son fishing every year. we had a great spot, not easy to f
he was involved in much more than law enforcement. he was involved with the ambulance service on campus. he helped out organizations that were fighting cancer. someone who everyone has something good to say about today. getting the spotlight shined on his life and all the kacauses h supported. >> he will be remembered by a medal in his honor. >> reporter: mit saying they have set up a fund. this fund will support the collier medal. this is something that will be handed out to...
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there's nothing against the law about it. but it is a sort of "you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours" kind of arrangement. "if you sell our funds, "you will get a portion of the revenue we earn from selling them through you." >> this is a kind of sub-rosa part of this industry, and there's not a lot of information about it. but the fact of the matter is, thas far as i know, those kind of payments to brokers for distributing your shares has simply become part of the system. you know, the brokers are getting a little religion here. they're saying, "why should i distribute your funds unless you pay me to? "you get these big management fees. "i want some of it. "you're getting plenty. give me some." >> smith: the problem is that these fees are not paid by the fund company. the bill is passed to you and me. here it is, buried deep in my 401(k) plan documents. it took me about an hour to find the reference. do you think the industry could do a better job of making people aware of the effective fees on their savings? >> i think we
there's nothing against the law about it. but it is a sort of "you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours" kind of arrangement. "if you sell our funds, "you will get a portion of the revenue we earn from selling them through you." >> this is a kind of sub-rosa part of this industry, and there's not a lot of information about it. but the fact of the matter is, thas far as i know, those kind of payments to brokers for distributing your shares has simply become part of...
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so, for example, if they were studying law they would get the head of the largest law firm in beijing to adopt them and see how a law firm work and meet their families and so forth. plus, we are going to have pretty robust program designed by both western academics as well as the professors. >> you got the idea this was west meets east with this program that you're starting. it's interesting, though, as the times reported, rhodes wanted everybody in the british empire to come to great britain and study. you now have seen the paradigm shift that people have been seeinging coming for 30 years now. you started it in china. why in china instead of boston or los angeles? >> i think the economic center of the world is clearly moving to asia. you have the second largest country in the world, china, the third largest, japan. and you can see that the trend is somewhat inexorable. one of the reasons for this in terms of doing a major program is that if china continues growing at double or triple the rate of the western countries and creating 10 million jobs a year, whereas, there is virtually n
so, for example, if they were studying law they would get the head of the largest law firm in beijing to adopt them and see how a law firm work and meet their families and so forth. plus, we are going to have pretty robust program designed by both western academics as well as the professors. >> you got the idea this was west meets east with this program that you're starting. it's interesting, though, as the times reported, rhodes wanted everybody in the british empire to come to great...
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basically, she would see a lot of her mother-in-law, the brother's mother. she wouldn't see quite as much of dzhokar, the younger brother. anderson, for all the talk of tamerlan being so isolated and not having any american friends, let's remember that he married an american girl named katie from the suburbs of providence, rhode island. so not everything there is square. >> we've talked to a number of people who have said everything is not square. chris, i appreciate the update. more ahead on my interview with a young dance instructor. dance teacher who will not be stopped by what she lost in the bombing. doctors had to amputate her leg several inches below her knee. but she says she is not giving up. >> i look at this as someone trying to stop me from realizing my dreams and i thought that ballroom dancing was something that i was never going to do in dance. it just seemed like it was a tough arena to be in and i've conquered that, and i'm not ready to stop. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. z
basically, she would see a lot of her mother-in-law, the brother's mother. she wouldn't see quite as much of dzhokar, the younger brother. anderson, for all the talk of tamerlan being so isolated and not having any american friends, let's remember that he married an american girl named katie from the suburbs of providence, rhode island. so not everything there is square. >> we've talked to a number of people who have said everything is not square. chris, i appreciate the update. more...
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but as you said, we have disparate state laws. each state makes its own laws. >> michael, just the probabilities involved. based on everything you've seen, the devices they've used, the story that we learned how to do this on the internet. we were kind of inspired by some of these web sites we've gone to with extremist, islamic clerics who are on them and that stuff. is there anything you've heard developed from the suspect where you say, oh, no, that doesn't sound possible? >> this is actually a fairly typical story of home-grown extremists, in my experience. we've had a history of home-grown extremists in the united states having pretty extensive ties here in the united states. of course, the ft. hood shooter, nadal hassan. the basic profile of these two is not really inconsistent with what we've seen. and to your point about the internet, almost every home-grown al qaeda-inspired extremist that we've seen in the united states over the past five to six years has really been affected quite significantly by english-speaking extrem
but as you said, we have disparate state laws. each state makes its own laws. >> michael, just the probabilities involved. based on everything you've seen, the devices they've used, the story that we learned how to do this on the internet. we were kind of inspired by some of these web sites we've gone to with extremist, islamic clerics who are on them and that stuff. is there anything you've heard developed from the suspect where you say, oh, no, that doesn't sound possible? >> this...
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the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> reporter: so much of a shock that the attorneys say she last saw her husband on thursday when she left for work and that the husband was home with their young daughter. that was, of course, before the fbi released those videos and pictures that set off this manhunt, erin. >> chris, before the video came out but after the act happened. she was living in a very cramped apartment in cambridge. the pictures we've been shown appear to be cluttered. they had explosives, all this stuff going on. how is it possible she lived there and did not know that something was amiss? >> reporter: i think you've hit on the big reason why investigators really want to talk to her as they try to piece together exactly when and where tamerlan may have tried to assemble some of those bombs. the lawyers will say that, a, she didn't speak russian so she didn't always understand everything that was being said. they also say that she spent a lot of time out of the house. sometimes up to six, seven days a week, 7
the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> reporter: so much of a shock that the attorneys say she last saw her husband on thursday when she left for work and that the husband was home with their young daughter. that was, of course, before the fbi released those videos and pictures that set off this manhunt, erin. >> chris, before the video came out but after the act happened. she was living in a very cramped apartment in...
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for the first time in 13 years, i have had real representation from an attorney at law. i'll be honest, i haven't had a lot of faith in attorneys. i've went through 20 or so in the last 13 years. and i will never let you go. that came from the heart. i didn't write that. i want to also thank senator roger wicker for his kind words about me in the press, and for the record, i have always felt that he is a good and honest man. i respect president obama. i love my country. and would never do anything to pose a threat to him or any other u.s. official. this past week has been a nightmare for myself and my family. my mother has suffered. as well as my children. i would like to get back to normal, which for me means being the best father that i can be to my children, supporting my favorite charity save a life foundation and entertaining through my music. thank you. >> paul kevin curtis, released from custody, charges dropped. there's still plenty of stuff we don't know about what happened. dan lothian, our white house correspondent, is standing by. dan, we do know that ricin-l
for the first time in 13 years, i have had real representation from an attorney at law. i'll be honest, i haven't had a lot of faith in attorneys. i've went through 20 or so in the last 13 years. and i will never let you go. that came from the heart. i didn't write that. i want to also thank senator roger wicker for his kind words about me in the press, and for the record, i have always felt that he is a good and honest man. i respect president obama. i love my country. and would never do...
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he's communicating with law enforcement by writing. by -- i don't know how he's doing it. >> rose: or nodding in some way? >> he's communicate with them. not an ideal circumstance, but that's what he's doing. >> rose: do we know whether it's a cooperative way or not? >> it seems to be cooperative. but, again, i don't have any inside information. we don't know as much as we know. and the older brother really got radicalized in a hurry. >> rose: by a trip back to -- >> no, not -- by the time he made his trip back he was already deeply involved in this. >> rose: so why did he go back? >> well, according to the parents, according to the parents he had to go back in order to renew his passport and he went back for six months. right now we are at the stage where we don't know his exact whereabouts except for that the parents say that the older brother, tamerlan, stayed with them in dagestan, in the capital city and the father claims-- although the father and mother seem wounded and deluded to say the least about their sons' activities-- say
he's communicating with law enforcement by writing. by -- i don't know how he's doing it. >> rose: or nodding in some way? >> he's communicate with them. not an ideal circumstance, but that's what he's doing. >> rose: do we know whether it's a cooperative way or not? >> it seems to be cooperative. but, again, i don't have any inside information. we don't know as much as we know. and the older brother really got radicalized in a hurry. >> rose: by a trip back to --...
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that's what the law says. that's what's happening with the faa, with the tsa, with every other alphabet soup agency in government. >> so howard, how badly are people feeling these cuts? there was an atlantic headline yesterday that caught my eye. it said, airports holding up under the crushing weight sequestration. my friend was on a plane yesterday and he said the pilot got on the radio and told the passengers, if the service was bad, blame republicans for the furloughs. now, republicans are blaming obama. there was a hash tag they were trying to get trending, obama flight delays yesterday. i don't know if that worked. >> catchy. >> what effect is all of this, this blame game stuff. what is that going to have on budget politics? >> i think the easy answer, but i think the correct one is that it is a pox on both the houses and the presidency. the fact is people don't distinguish that much for the most part if they're fair-minded. it is true the president suggested using the sequester tool as part of the negoti
that's what the law says. that's what's happening with the faa, with the tsa, with every other alphabet soup agency in government. >> so howard, how badly are people feeling these cuts? there was an atlantic headline yesterday that caught my eye. it said, airports holding up under the crushing weight sequestration. my friend was on a plane yesterday and he said the pilot got on the radio and told the passengers, if the service was bad, blame republicans for the furloughs. now, republicans...
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one law enforcement official pointed me towards a line that runs between new york city and toronto. it runs actually from buffalo, new york. i'm told that the plan was to detonate explosives in canada. and derail -- and derail the train. and my law enforcement source said there had been some reports that they wanted to wage a spectacular attack, blow up a bridge. he said no. he said what they were doing was to target the train on the tressels, and actually what they wanted to do was derail the train and cause maximum injury to the people on it. >> so two quick follow-ups with you, gloria. first, whether we look at u.s. response here of what happened in boston, canada, an example of it working well, right? coordinated investigation, caught the plot early, and they have been watching it for over a year, haddize izeyes on the si, right? >> they had eyes on the situational they had informants in the community that they believed would be lucrative for them, and that certainly worked out. i think they -- it is clear to me that they worked in concert with united states law enforcement and
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let's bring in law enforcement analyst former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. what isn't important. what when hear this, this is not left about versus right, this is about safely, a legitimate issue. >> i would ask them that question, chris. >> say it again. >> i said -- no, i would ask the senators and the members of the house of representatives what the -- what's the purpose and what they're trying to do. obviously it appears that they're trying to find out if the fbi missed something or if the department of homeland security missed something. >> right. >> how that could have happened or should there have been some kind of stops in place, the term ping that the system was pinged, i don't know of that or how that worked. that would be something within the passport control under dhs. but i note the russian sent a message to the fbi to investigate him in 2011. now and nothing comes of that, there's nothing derogatory found near as we can tell. everything was done that could have been done and the information was sent back to russia. now, now after that investiga
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my stepfather practiced law in these two towns where these men carried these things out. it is horrible and hard for us. i feel that jihadists want to us blame all muslims. pizza religious war. but there is a responsibility. american muslims need to come out more. these people in louisville hold open houses in their mosques so people can see what they do and it is not so shrouded in mystery. more broadly speaking, when we look at the middle east, people see chaos. >> which you've tried to explain in beyond war. you look through the arab spring and you take it country by country. there are big differences in the way tonig way they see them. >> there is this epic struggle for power and for control between conservative muslims. some of them are very violent and more liberal secular ones. and frankly, we need to do a better job of seeing that, what's happening. it is not chaos. this is a very real power struggle and figure out how can we help those moderates. we are less dependent on energy from the middle east. the chinese economy will depend on that oil from the middle east
my stepfather practiced law in these two towns where these men carried these things out. it is horrible and hard for us. i feel that jihadists want to us blame all muslims. pizza religious war. but there is a responsibility. american muslims need to come out more. these people in louisville hold open houses in their mosques so people can see what they do and it is not so shrouded in mystery. more broadly speaking, when we look at the middle east, people see chaos. >> which you've tried to...
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what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as the bush administration has in the past and as they have acted in other terrorist cases by using the normal criminal procedures. >> because lindsey graham and others say, yes, he should be tried as a u.s. citizen, should be tried in a u.s. civilian court, but that can await this process of doing some serious interrogation of him and designating him as an enemy combatant in the meantime. all of this is moot right now, because as you know, yesterday, he was formally given his miranda rights and a judge magistrate at his bed s
what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as...
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when we return we're going to get into the law of this case. dzhokhar tsarnaev was formally charged today. he'll be prosecuted through the criminal justice system despite republicans who say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. >>> later, the russian connection. we have new details about the older brother, tamerlan, and his six-month trip overseas to russia, that area, as he became increasingly more devout in his religion and radicalism. >>> here in washington, the marathon bombings have already started to change the debate on things like -- you knew this was coming -- immigration. >>> finally, life started to return to normal this weekend in boston. i was up there as the slow healing begins. this is "hardball." as we say up there, "hardball." the place for politics. >>> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was of course, white house spokesman jay carney short by before 1:00 p.m. today making clear the boston suspect will
when we return we're going to get into the law of this case. dzhokhar tsarnaev was formally charged today. he'll be prosecuted through the criminal justice system despite republicans who say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. >>> later, the russian connection. we have new details about the older brother, tamerlan, and his six-month trip overseas to russia, that area, as he became increasingly more devout in his religion and radicalism. >>> here in washington, the...
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and then for son-in-law reason, he tells me this is dzhokhar and tamerlan, and points at the screen and says here is tamerlan in the blue jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say anzor, these are guys with the backpack when the photos are shown. it can't be them. he says i don't know, these are my children. and then his wife grabs the tv screen and starts screaming, i can't be, it can't be happening. i don't believe it. the children are dead. i would have cried out myself. >> reporter: nick walsh, cnn. >>> it was russia that asked the fbi to look into tamerlan tsarnaev's activities back in 2011. moscow said the older brother was increasingly turning to radical islam. bill black joins us now live from moscow where it is 9:36 in the morning. phil, the chronology of this may surprise people, because it seems that the return to radical islam, the request from moscow came before he traveled back to his ancestral homeland. is that the word you're hearing from russian officials, that they were worried even before they let him back in the country? >> reporter: it's what the chronology
and then for son-in-law reason, he tells me this is dzhokhar and tamerlan, and points at the screen and says here is tamerlan in the blue jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say anzor, these are guys with the backpack when the photos are shown. it can't be them. he says i don't know, these are my children. and then his wife grabs the tv screen and starts screaming, i can't be, it can't be happening. i don't believe it. the children are dead. i would have cried out myself. >>...
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on the administration to do is come forward with a new structure and to articulate how the rule of law will support protecting the country in this new threat environment. there wasn't a case for treating this brother as an enemy combatant and i think it was very premature for my senate colleagues to call for him to be treated that way. >> congressman, thank you very much. >>> up next the attorney for american wife of tamerlan tsarnaev said she had no knowledge of the attacks. does that add up? and the destructive nature of the pressure cooker bomb and what can be done to stop them? we have a special investigation. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announcer ] yes, you could business pro. yes, you could. go national. go like a pro. >>> if you are just joining us, i want to update you on the investigation in to the boston marathon bombings. dzhokh
on the administration to do is come forward with a new structure and to articulate how the rule of law will support protecting the country in this new threat environment. there wasn't a case for treating this brother as an enemy combatant and i think it was very premature for my senate colleagues to call for him to be treated that way. >> congressman, thank you very much. >>> up next the attorney for american wife of tamerlan tsarnaev said she had no knowledge of the attacks....
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. >> i was told by a boston law enforcement source we got him. >> jon: [bleep] i can't... you know, so many people, this is so important. so many people are going to be reading this tonight. give me the details. this is exciting. >> federal law enforcement source says an arrest has been made base on two different videos showing images of the suspect. the video enhancement showed a dark-skinned male placing the package at the second etion ploation site and backing away >> jon: dark skinned male. boy, wow. how did they narrow that down? that could be anybody from dennis rodman to george hamilton. i mean, he could still... or maybe brooklyn assemblyman. so, boy, that's... wow. but, you know, they had a tremendous amount of information. more importantly... >> we're getting some exclusive information from cnn's john king. you're working your sources. you're getting more information. exclusive reporting. you heard this dramatic exclusive reporting that john has done now. >> jon: you know what?at john this is why you turn to cnn in a crisis. you know, we make fun of them sometime
. >> i was told by a boston law enforcement source we got him. >> jon: [bleep] i can't... you know, so many people, this is so important. so many people are going to be reading this tonight. give me the details. this is exciting. >> federal law enforcement source says an arrest has been made base on two different videos showing images of the suspect. the video enhancement showed a dark-skinned male placing the package at the second etion ploation site and backing away >>...
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the combatant laws we don't know that one can be successfully conducted. that's lost in a mar ras in guantanamo bay. this case will take a long time, be expensive and complicated but he's going to trial and there's going to be a verdict. we know that. >> jeff, thank you very much. fran, julia, as well. appreciate it. follow me on twitte twitter @andersoncooper. what do you think? should he be charged in a criminal court opposed to an enemy combatant? >>> and we will dig in to the case. the older suspect spent last year in parts of dagestan and chechnya. and the older suspect's widow. what we know about her and their relationship and more importantly what the fbi wants to know from her tonight. >>> later, my interview was remarkable woman. i hope you stick around for this. she a dance instructor whose body was broken. she had to have part of her leg amputated below the knee but her spirit is certainly not broken. >> i woke up and my parents were there and i said i feel like my foot is falling asleep. it feels like my ankle is falling off of the pillow and m
the combatant laws we don't know that one can be successfully conducted. that's lost in a mar ras in guantanamo bay. this case will take a long time, be expensive and complicated but he's going to trial and there's going to be a verdict. we know that. >> jeff, thank you very much. fran, julia, as well. appreciate it. follow me on twitte twitter @andersoncooper. what do you think? should he be charged in a criminal court opposed to an enemy combatant? >>> and we will dig in to the...
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for one, the law doesn't even cover him because he's a u.s. citizen. but from a law enforcement national security perspective, what better way to minimize the impact of terrorists than to treat them like criminals. that's what they are. if you make them into sort of a bigger deal than he is or anyone is, it sort of gives them a relevance we actually don't want to. so a lot of people in national security and counterterrorism love this idea. not only because of the legal underpinnings behind it but also because it sort of says to anyone who would harm us, you're just a criminal. >> there has also been a lot of successful prosecutions of terrorist suspects in criminal court. >> you can learn a lot of evidence from this. when i first got into this field it was right after the africa bombings, african embassy bombings in '98, and some of the testimony that came out of that really taught us a lot about bin laden, about his rise within islamic jihadism and you can learn a lot out of it. what we don't know is whether he has anything to teach us. that's the one
for one, the law doesn't even cover him because he's a u.s. citizen. but from a law enforcement national security perspective, what better way to minimize the impact of terrorists than to treat them like criminals. that's what they are. if you make them into sort of a bigger deal than he is or anyone is, it sort of gives them a relevance we actually don't want to. so a lot of people in national security and counterterrorism love this idea. not only because of the legal underpinnings behind it...
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call the administration to do is come forward with a new structure and to articulate how the rule of law will support protecting the country in this new threat environment. but there just wasn't the case for treating this brother as an enemy combatant and i think it was very premature for some of my senate colleagues to call for limb to be treated that way. >> interesting point. also interesting we need to really reconsider. thank you very much, congressman. we appreciate your time. "outfront" next, authorities stop another terrorist attack. this one on a train between new york city and canada. we have a i love live update on and talk to a man who was there when police finally captured suspect number two on that boat in friday. how police talked him out of the boat. here's a word you should keep in mind. unbiased. some brokerage firms are. but way too many aren't. why? because selling their funds makes them more money. which makes you wonder -- isn't that a conflict? search "proprietary mutual funds." yikes! then go to e-trade. we've got over 8,000 mutual funds, and not one of them has o
call the administration to do is come forward with a new structure and to articulate how the rule of law will support protecting the country in this new threat environment. but there just wasn't the case for treating this brother as an enemy combatant and i think it was very premature for some of my senate colleagues to call for limb to be treated that way. >> interesting point. also interesting we need to really reconsider. thank you very much, congressman. we appreciate your time....
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this is not law. this is just pure authority and it is not the american tradition. >> cenk: we all know rahm emmanuel leaks information. he brags that he leaks information. either butt rahm put rahm emmanuel right next to bradley manning or let him go. chase mader thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> cenk: back to the boston bombing, they're muslim, and what implication does that have on gun legislation and immigration. all that when we return. rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think that there is any chance we'll see this president even say the words "carbon tax"? >> with an open mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned "great leadership" so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter). >> watch the show. >> only on current tv. (vo) now, it's your turn. (vo) connect with the young turks with cenk
this is not law. this is just pure authority and it is not the american tradition. >> cenk: we all know rahm emmanuel leaks information. he brags that he leaks information. either butt rahm put rahm emmanuel right next to bradley manning or let him go. chase mader thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> cenk: back to the boston bombing, they're muslim, and what implication does that have on gun legislation and immigration. all that when we return. rights but...
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they certainly will release that videotape in a court of law. they've described it in extensive detail. that's going to be powerful, powerful evidence in a potential trial. tom, thanks very much. let's recap quickly the surviving suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, now facing federal charges, among them use gd and conspiring to 0 use a weapon of mass destruction rulgting in death. let's bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, what happens next? >> what happens next is that the case will be presented to a grand jury. prosecutors will begin presenting evidence, leading to an indictment. i think the process is going to slow down a great deal. remember, this crime was only a week ago. the government is going to have to assemble a lot of scientific evidence trying to tie material that could be connected to the defendant, to the bomb itself. this is complicated stuff. i think it's going to be months in the grand jury until a final indictment is ready to be presented probably. and then at that point the case will be presented to a trial judg
they certainly will release that videotape in a court of law. they've described it in extensive detail. that's going to be powerful, powerful evidence in a potential trial. tom, thanks very much. let's recap quickly the surviving suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, now facing federal charges, among them use gd and conspiring to 0 use a weapon of mass destruction rulgting in death. let's bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, what happens next? >> what happens next is that the...
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law feer law enforcement to say, keep an eye on this person, we think he may be up to no good? does that happen a lot, or is it rare? >> i'm not in a position to say how many times any specific government has communicated to the united states government, but it's fair to say that w whenever we get such communications i think we want to take them very seriously. >> in 2011 the fbi was informed by the russian fsb, the successor organization to the kgb, that they were concerned about the older brother. the fbi says they looked into his communications, they interviewed him, they didn't find there to be anything that would pose a threat to public safety, and then the older brother went to russia, we presume, to chechnya, came back. should the fbi re-interviewed him after he came back? >> they took the matter seriously when it first came up, and obviously there was a very serious concern that we can see in retrospect. and i would be particularly concerned about someone who visited an area like chechnya, if that's in fact what happened, especially in the light of the fact that chechny
law feer law enforcement to say, keep an eye on this person, we think he may be up to no good? does that happen a lot, or is it rare? >> i'm not in a position to say how many times any specific government has communicated to the united states government, but it's fair to say that w whenever we get such communications i think we want to take them very seriously. >> in 2011 the fbi was informed by the russian fsb, the successor organization to the kgb, that they were concerned about...
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there is a provision that allows in case law that allows for law enforcement to wait if they think there is a national security threat or a danger to the public until they've talked to the person and established there isn't a danger to the public or gotten the information they need. then they can read the miranda rights. that's what the fbi has done in this case. that's what they did in the new york time square bomber. that worked quite well. they talk to him for a while before they read him his rights. then they read him his rights. he kept and he provided very valuable information. we know that the traditional civilian court system founded by the founding fathers can work in this situation. >> let me ask you a couple questions. if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that does
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this is a testament to the strength our relationships with canadian and american law enforcement and to the ability of canadian government agencies to work together in furtherance of canada's counterterrorism strategy. today's charges represent the most recent example of the tremendously successful effort and commitment of our national security teams. and i would like to take this opportunity to thank them for their outstanding dedication. in recent years, our collaborative approach has led to arrests and several convictions including in ottawa, in quebec and the 11 individuals in project osage in toronto. these successful arrests and convictions demonstrate the expertise and the effectiveness of our integrated teams. we could not have successfully completed this investigation without the collaboration of our partners at the local, national and international levels. on behalf of the rcmp, i express our appreciation for their tremendous support. i am pleased that some of these partners have been able to join us today. even with these successes, it is very important that canadians rema
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it's a matter for law enforcement. now on the question of the public safety exception. it is not necessary that the individual be designated an enemy combatant in order for him to be questioned without giving him miranda warnings, the exception emanates from a supreme court decision in the early '80s, called new york versus quarrels. the criminal suspect in that situation was not a terrorist, he was not part of any enemy force. he was arrested in a grocery store in queens. and the police asked him where is the loaded gun. he had a gun with him. they couldn't find it. and for public safety reasons, they needed to find the loaded weapon quickly. and they asked him the questions without mirandaizing him. so the public safety exception is domestic in nature. so it's completely unnecessary to call him an enemy combatant in the first place. >> they had a lot of guns, and this is part of the investigation. how do two brothers in cambridge, mass, get ahold of all of this weaponry, and create these bombs? now low-level, low-tech bombs, be that they were. can they do that all wit
it's a matter for law enforcement. now on the question of the public safety exception. it is not necessary that the individual be designated an enemy combatant in order for him to be questioned without giving him miranda warnings, the exception emanates from a supreme court decision in the early '80s, called new york versus quarrels. the criminal suspect in that situation was not a terrorist, he was not part of any enemy force. he was arrested in a grocery store in queens. and the police asked...
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do you think this terror attack would put a new heat on lawmakers for tighter gun laws? >> i hope so. it's kind of -- the bombs are a reach from the gun legislation. they did have guns. i don't know if they were illegal or legal. but we are not pollyannas. we know that not every gun violent issue and incident will be stopped by a background check. it certainly will stop some and if you're the one that's going to get the call or prevent from getting the call saying your 9-year-old daughter is at umc and you need to get there right away because she's been murdered, you know, that is powerful. that's powerful. and i used to think the worst thing i could imagine was roxanna and john green holding the lifeless body of their 9-year-old. but there's something worse and those not being able to hold the lifeless body of your child. and that's what the newtown people had to experience. and i think our senators and our representatives need to take a serious look at how damaging gun violence is. in the body and in the mind. it's just unacceptable. we're a smart people, we should be
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that's when law enforcement hand cuffed him. as you look at those pictures, law enforcement was usie ining grenades. hearing tissue may be damaged during the course of this. it is unclear how much he is hearing. clearly not an ideal situation for investigators. doctors are trying to prevent any unnecessary stress to the body. that's why right now the investigators are second dare to what the doctors are trying to accomplish. anderson. >> all right. good information there. appreciate the update on that. we have learned a lot more obviously about these two suspected bombers in the weeks since the tragedy, but one person we have not heard a lot about is catherine russell. she's the wife of the suspect killed in the shootout. they do have a daughter. she's a toddler. what did he say? >> he said she learned about all this from the news reports and at no time new about what her husband was doing before this happened. we also learned that basically she is distraught. he says she's been crying a lot. he says she feels very strongly and
that's when law enforcement hand cuffed him. as you look at those pictures, law enforcement was usie ining grenades. hearing tissue may be damaged during the course of this. it is unclear how much he is hearing. clearly not an ideal situation for investigators. doctors are trying to prevent any unnecessary stress to the body. that's why right now the investigators are second dare to what the doctors are trying to accomplish. anderson. >> all right. good information there. appreciate the...
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new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. it seems to me the unanswered question everybody would like to know of, number one, where did these guys test? nobody believes this was the first time they did these bombs on monday. that they must have tested them somewhere. the second, what was tamerlan, the older brother, doing in russia for six months? >> reporter: exactly. there's so many unanswered questions here. but let's start with the -- that russian report to the fbi in 2011 asking them to investigate tamerlan. what sparked that -- the russian request? what information do they have? the fbi says that the russians didn'
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police officer, seriously injured another local law enforcement officer. do we have any idea where they got those weapons? >> not yet. and i think that question also extends to the explosives, as well. but this is an investigation pursuing lots of lines of inquiry both foreign and domestic. i would have to guess, though, that rather than risk acquiring weapons and explosives from abroad, it's much more likely they were acquired domestically. >> these two guys apparently didn't have much money, but enough to buy explosives, pressure cookers, a rifle, long rifle according to the watertown police chief i spoke with. other weapons, as well. >> i'm sure they're already well into the suspect's computer files and financial records. we're getting a mixed picture because on the one hand, they seem to have had a modest style of living. on the other hand, there is that picture that's been widely circulated of suspect number one wearing expensive shoes, expensive clothes, other reports by people who knew them that the older brother engaged in a more lavish lifestyle.
police officer, seriously injured another local law enforcement officer. do we have any idea where they got those weapons? >> not yet. and i think that question also extends to the explosives, as well. but this is an investigation pursuing lots of lines of inquiry both foreign and domestic. i would have to guess, though, that rather than risk acquiring weapons and explosives from abroad, it's much more likely they were acquired domestically. >> these two guys apparently didn't have...
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also, the fact we can't even pass a gun trafficking law, a national gun trafficking law that stops gang members from passing gun to gun to gun, who's against that? i don't understand how anybody could be against tough gun trafficking legislation. or background checks for criminals and terrorists. >> it's the same dynamic. but i think the dynamic is going to change. you're in one lane or the other. to get more people to cross lanes we've got to have an election cycle. >> senator bob casey, thank you very much for being on the show today. >> thank you. >>> tomorrow on "morning joe" -- >> i love, mika, the daily news covered it. you flashed. >> yeah. >> and the one last week. right after the lost vote. >> no. i mean, it's just -- absolutely, after the lost vote. >> talking about the cowards on the hill. >> mm-hmm. tomorrow on "morning joe" google executive chairman eric schmidt joins us here onset. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. ♪ [ male announcer ] purpose elevates what we do. raises it to a more meaningful place. makes us live what we do, love what we do and fills o
also, the fact we can't even pass a gun trafficking law, a national gun trafficking law that stops gang members from passing gun to gun to gun, who's against that? i don't understand how anybody could be against tough gun trafficking legislation. or background checks for criminals and terrorists. >> it's the same dynamic. but i think the dynamic is going to change. you're in one lane or the other. to get more people to cross lanes we've got to have an election cycle. >> senator bob...
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overnight in the streets of boston celebrations, law enforcement hailed as heroes. day six, as tsarnaev lay sedated and unable to speak from a neck injury, federal prosecutors prepare charges against him. pamela brown, cnn, boston, massachusetts. >>> what a week it has been. the victims, the wounded are still healing. people are still grieving, and dzhokhar tsarnaev still lying in that hospital bed, handcuffed to the bed, waiting to face justice. >> a wide-ranging investigation still ongoing. >>> still ahead, something for air passengers to watch out for now. >>> if you are traveling but lufthansa in or around europe, you will want to hear this. stay with us. the details about a major strike. yoyw97 >>> welcome back. you're watching a special edition of "cnn newsroom." let's turn to business news now. it's travel news, too. a major strike on monday at lufthansa effecting travel in and around europe. the german airline is cancelling nearly 1,700 flights after a walkout over wages. thousands of airline staffers want a pay increase. they want 5%, lufthansa is offering
overnight in the streets of boston celebrations, law enforcement hailed as heroes. day six, as tsarnaev lay sedated and unable to speak from a neck injury, federal prosecutors prepare charges against him. pamela brown, cnn, boston, massachusetts. >>> what a week it has been. the victims, the wounded are still healing. people are still grieving, and dzhokhar tsarnaev still lying in that hospital bed, handcuffed to the bed, waiting to face justice. >> a wide-ranging investigation...